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Beyond Order

By: Jordan B. Peterson
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The highly anticipated sequel to 12 Rules for Life, which has sold over five million copies around the world.

In 12 Rules for Life, acclaimed public thinker and clinical psychologist Jordan B. Peterson offered an antidote to the chaos in our lives: eternal truths applied to modern anxieties. His insights have helped millions of people and resonated powerfully around the world.

Now in this long-awaited sequel, Peterson goes further, showing that part of life's meaning comes from reaching out into the domain beyond what we know and adapting to an ever-transforming world. While an excess of chaos threatens us with uncertainty, an excess of order leads to a lack of curiosity and creative vitality. Beyond Order therefore calls on us to balance the two fundamental principles of reality - order and chaos ­- and reveals the profound meaning that can be found on the path that divides them.

In times of instability and suffering, Peterson reminds us that there are sources of strength on which we can all draw: insights borrowed from psychology, philosophy and humanity's greatest myths and stories. Drawing on the hard-won truths of ancient wisdom, as well as deeply personal lessons from his own life and clinical practice, Peterson offers 12 new principles to guide listeners towards a more courageous, truthful and meaningful life.

©2021 Jordan B. Peterson (P)2021 Penguin Audio

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Masterpiece

This men saved my life, he has an incredible way of seeing the world. 10/10 recomend it to everyone

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Wonderful.

You don't have to worshipfully hang by JBP's every word as some do, nor believe him to be evil incarnate as do others. Simply take the man for what he is; earnest, thoughtful, well-informed well-intentioned, and a truly great communicator. Beyond Order. Perhaps beyond polarisation. A wonderful read.

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Amazing, Life Changing

Just got through the second Rule and even with me having high expectations, this book has not disappointed me. This is a perfect sequel to the previous book and is just as eye-opening and engaging as that was. Jordan is one of the greatest intellectuals of our lifetime and is an absolute privilege to be able to listen/read more of his work. Life has no happy ending, but this book opens your eyes to finding positives and strength in the inevitable chaos of our existence at a personal level. I have nothing but respect for this great man.

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A significant book

You should listen to it and you should read it, preferably at the same time so you can remember those wise words. These are deep, profound and universally applicable wisdom, regardless your ethnicity, age and social background. These help me become a fulfilled human being and they are like a mental foundation that is cemented in my mind.

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Not disappointed. Really enjoyed this listen.

I feel as if Jordan Peterson is misunderstood by many. On the face of it his message seems harsh and perhaps macho but if you take the time to really listen you’ll realise that he’s just trying to make the best of things the way we all should. Many of us do and many of us appreciate a helping hand when it’s offered. Call me naive but I think he cares and I think he’s been wrestling with things for most of his life. Just my opinion but I am, after a lot of reading and listening to lots of different people, a big fan. This is another great book brilliantly narrated

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deeply personally

just as good as the first one. the most appealing part is for me that he has so much personal experience and that he is applying his own advice to his own world. no hypocrisy. just truthful life lesson on how to be a better person. some parts hit hard.

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Truly motivational and thought provoking

I thoroughly enjoyed the book. The narrative voice switches between storyteller, clinical psychologist and philosophical analyst giving a grounded, realistic and personal interpretation of each rule. I honestly think 'Beyond Order' is a more mature book than the first volume (12 rules for life), something which Dr. Peterson has endeavoured to achieve and in my mind has accomplished. The book resonated greatly with me and I can't seem to stop asking myself questions about my own life, so much so, that I started listening to some of the chapters again in an effort to distill the knowledge even further. I highly recommend for those wondering if they should pick it up where I should mention that the first volume is not a prerequisite, but it is a great addition nonetheless.

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Thank you Dr Peterson

You’ve done it again; I’ll look forward to listening over and over again. Thank you for more words of wisdom. Best wishes to you and your family.

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Pains me to not give 5/5

As a long time admirer of Dr Jordan Peterson I must say this books goes off into the biblical stories too much for me. It is not as easy as saying old stories, and therefore often religious ones, does not have a place in describing something. Peterson was actually the one who pointed this out to me. I have developed another way of talking because of him. I'm using metaphors more frequently and my vocabulary has expanded. In short: I'm grateful for the impact JBP has had on me. However, this book does contain too much religious references that simply goes over my head.

I'm a long time atheist and my perspective here is obviously going to reflect that. Even though I'm in the atheist camp and I presume I'm in the Sam Harris corner. JBP has on many occasions made me think twice about ideas I had simply thrown out (perhaps at times, the baby with the bathwater). At one of the Sam Harris vs JBP events, there is this amazing sequence (paraphrasing here), when Sam tries to highlight the ridiculous nature of religion and points out ancient horrendous acts as sacrificing your child. As an atheist, these points are very familiar for me, but JBP actually made an amazing point. Sacrificing your children was through a historical perspective actual proof of humans discovering the future. The elegant way JBP goes off to describe such behavior caught me by surprise. The fact that he could take the worst acts of religion and put it through that lens is both amazing and terrifying. I was so impressed by the way he managed to turn a strawman into a steelman argument. It was completely new to me and I became more open to the idea of old stories actually containing a message worthy of understanding. So why am I bringing this up? Because, even for someone like me who have agreed to listen to ancient stories and to look for wisdom where it can be found, this book included way to many religious references for me. I think this is a shame because the points gets lost, for someone who isn't a religious scholar and I don't think that is his intention.

His audience goes way beyond the religious corner and I feel there is such a lost opportunity here. Someone should have helped him out here. Someone dropped the ball. Did he become too successful for his own good? Did people in his surroundings not see this? Is this another case of George Lucas and Phantom Menace all over (just to pull in a Star Wars reference). If a more religious book was what he was aiming for, then he succeeded, but I feel he will have lost many on the way. However, when ever he does manage to keep me listening it is one of the greatest pieces of literature I have ever heard, hence the bipolar nature of my ratings.

His potential just clearly is above what this book delivered, but still worthy of a read!

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Tried and failed

Having gone through dozens of novels in audio format and hundred in print, I have never struggled as much to be gripped or engaged. I gave it 4 hours of listening time and couldn't complete. I know my voice wouldn't work for audio books and feel it is the same for Jordan, Possibly have been more engaging with different reader.

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  • Angela Shearer
  • 22-04-21

sobering, inspiring and necessary

Whenever I need a good taking to, I listen to one of Jordan Petersons audiobooks. They help me become unstuck from places I do not want to dwell in. So much tremendous wisdom.

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  • 13-04-21

One of the rare times a sequel does not disappoint

I was worried that I would not like the 2nd installment given the precedent set by JP.
I can't say it's better, however, I can't say it's worse. It's just great in its own way like the other two books.

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  • 09-04-21

Engaging

Never dissapoints, always invoking deep thought to the "mundane".
Makes one take their own behaviors, ideas, and perceptions more seriously or atleast unravels them.
Thank you

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  • Misheck Lusungu Kumwenda
  • 11-03-21

insightful

took me a week to listen to it because there was so much I had to think about and understand carefully. no doubt will be giving this book another listen in the future. glad the author read it himself despite the challenges he was facing.

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  • Chris Powell
  • 07-08-22

Something for everyone

An amazing book. Just like '12 Rules for Life: An antidote to chaos' this is something that everyone should read or listen to. The life lessons imbued in these works provide the foundation and mindset for building a better life for yourself, your family and your community. Delivered in a way which is always exciting and intriguing, never boring. If you're still in doubt, please give it a try.

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  • Anonymous User
  • 06-07-22

couldn't understand a damn thing

there are too many unnecessary stories in this book, I lost the plot in all the chapters. I am disappointed cos I really like 12 rules for life

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  • Anonymous User
  • 06-01-22

a book that changed me I so many ways

thank you Jordan peterson,for writing this book,it gives hope....and . life goals to strive to.

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  • Vinícius Farias
  • 09-10-21

Ok, here we go.

First, Jordan remains excessively verbose when he could deliver the same message in a much more simpler manner. It feels as if a teenager is trying to sound smart to his English teacher. Marcus Aurelius’ writings as well as Seneca’s for example, are much more straightforward and deep ( truly deep and original I mean ), they are good writers to learn from.
As for the reading, Jordan’s uneven and unstable Mickey Mouse voice is utterly annoying and I know for a fact the book would be much more enjoyable if read by someone with a good voice, take Eva Green for example (Not that she would read it, just an example).
As for the story, I know Jordan is pretty much a preacher for writers and principles that died long before he was born not bringing much of his own other than his own personal experiences but, it gets rough to listen to the same bible stuff and quotes by Russian writers every one have heard about over and over again.

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  • Kindle Customer
  • 02-10-21

Strong headings, weak arguments

Excellent principles are followed by weak arguments without sufficient evidence. There is just enough moments of brilliance and clarity to continue with this book to the end. Unfortunately science, logic and reason play second fiddle to Harry Potter, Disney and proverbial dragons.

With respect to the author, you are unlikely to miss out by reading the headings and skipping the book.

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  • Tonya Pierre-Gopaul
  • 24-09-21

Even better than expected

Having been a follower of Dr Peterson’s videos for a while I had an idea of what to expect, but I must say this book was a real wake up call and exceeded my expectations. I really enjoyed the heartfelt narration by the author as well. Well written, insightful, poetic at times and well worth a read (or listen).