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The Spy Chronicles
- RAW, ISI and the Illusion of Peace
- Narrated by: Zubin Balaporia, Uday Benegal, Prateek Pillai
- Length: 8 hrs and 33 mins
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Sometime in 2016, a series of dialogues took place which set out to find a meeting ground, even if only an illusion, between A.S. Dulat and Asad Durrani. One was a former chief of RAW, India's external intelligence agency, the other of ISI, its Pakistani counterpart. As they could not meet in their home countries, the conversations, guided by journalist Aditya Sinha, took place in cities like Istanbul, Bangkok and Kathmandu.
On the table were subjects that have long haunted South Asia, flash points that take lives regularly. It was in all ways a deep dive into the politics of the subcontinent, as seen through the eyes of two spymasters. Among the subjects: Kashmir, and a missed opportunity for peace; Hafiz Saeed and 26/11; Kulbhushan Jadhav; surgical strikes; the deal for Osama bin Laden; how the United States and Russia feature in the India-Pakistan relationship; and how terror undermines the two countries' attempts at talks.
When the project was first mooted, General Durrani laughed and said nobody would believe it even if it was written as fiction. At a time of fraught relations, this unlikely dialogue between two former spy chiefs from opposite sides - a project that is the first of its kind - may well provide some answers.
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Highly recommended book
This is an excellent book which discusses covert diplomacy between India and Pakistan and presents an insight into all the ups and downs in the relationship between two countries from a perspective we would normally never hear about. The authors clearly have a lot of respect for one another and their views and exchanges are frank and honest. There is so much potential in better relations between India and Pakistan and this incredible book will hopefully help focus minds on the possibilities that lie ahead.
- M. ahmed
Good book but very hard for me to listen to the narration done for the part of General Asad Durrani. Very heavy on ears . Very strong Indian accent and sounds young for the most senior character. Sounds like actor Sunil Shetty. Wrong choice.
Recent History makes these guys seem gullible.
This was a remarkable discussion and provided significant insights into how both players think. That said, these gentlemen are from a different era. Hearing them speak it seemed as if peace was simply hindered by misunderstandings and diplomatic rigidity. There was very little discussion of how fundamentalism has taken over Pakistan or how little regard there is in India for Pakistan. Whats more shocking is that neither man could imagine the revocation of article 370 and the escalation the Modi government has done after Pulwama.
These gentlemen seemed to lament the shortage of imagination in thier respective governments, but it seems they are the ones short on imagination. Modi solidified India's hold on Kashmir in ways that A.S Daulat did not see possible and Asad Durani has been defending charges of disloyalty by the Pakistan military.
This was an interesting conversation to hear but quaint and a bit foolish.