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  • My Life as a Forensic Scientist on Britain's Biggest Cases
  • By: Ray Fysh
  • Narrated by: Michael Chance
  • Length: 10 hrs and 29 mins
  • 4.7 out of 5 stars (285 ratings)

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Shallow Graves

By: Ray Fysh
Narrated by: Michael Chance
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Summary

Shortlisted for the True Crime Awards 2023 Best New True Crime Author

The murder of Sarah Payne, Adam the Thames Torso, the London bombings, the Night Stalker and the poisoning of Alexander Litvinenko... The solving of all these cases can be linked to one man: Ray Fysh, a Charlton Athletic fan from Woolwich, a natural raconteur and also one of the finest forensic detectives the country has ever seen.

Ray began work for the Met Police in the 1970s when forensic investigation was seen as little more than a geeky side show, only in existence to confirm or eliminate evidence. But by the mid 90s Ray and his team had made huge progress in their field, contributing to the UK becoming a world-leading innovator in forensic techniques, with Ray himself being named as Special Adviser to the Forensic Science Service. As the SA, Ray worked alongside Senior Investigating Officers from day one of a case, directing his team to identify forensic opportunities and harvest case-cracking clues.

As Ray looks back over his career at the cases he worked on, the reader is given unparalleled insight into the highs and lows of an astonishing career, the historic classist snobbery of the Met and the stunning realities of crime and forensics
©2022 Ray Fysh (P)2022 Bonnier Books UK

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Interesting but…

Great detail and very interesting…. But, it is very me, me, me, me and more of me, me. It does sound if Ray Fysh came up with the new technology or techniques all by himself and it feels he is forcing himself into situations just to explain unimportant information. Quite bitter too.

BUT STILL A VERY, Worthwhile INTERESTING LISTEN.

Familiar DNA search. That was done in USA much earlier apparently to a US documentary.

A couple of cases have collided with other explanations from other team members.

Night stalker -Years later after little progress, DS Morgan was said to be less than impressed when Detective Chief Inspector Colin Sutton joined the team in 2009. But his involvement soon led to the capture of Grant. Sutton took the glory. That was the way ‘The Real Mindhunter’ played it on U.K. National TV.
There is a few more cases with different explanations from other books, News article or TV Documentaries.

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Fascinating cases but…

…. it’s badly, transparently, ghost written. Because of this, the focus of the book comes across as Ray Fysh, & very rarely as the forensic work or the intricacies of the cases. The way the narrative is done makes the author appear to be self-obsessed and smug, like some cop in a TV crime series. What a shame!

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Disappointing

This content in regards to the cases is interesting, however, the author's sense of self-importance and "old-school" (not even remotely politically correct) attitude made me stop listening an hour in. He seems to think that 'heavy handedness' is another term for racially aggravated police brutality. Don't bother.

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Interesting cases but hard to listen

The authors arrogance makes this hard to listen to, but an interesting enough autobiography regardless

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Superb

Very informative, true crimes I'm sure all remember. Loved the narrative by Ray, told with compassion

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Fantastic

Better than watching the true crimes on Netflix. I loved it. Left wanting more though. I’m going to have a look for more of these type of books now.

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Storytelling and humility

Fantastic information about the development of forensics and a sad ending - incredible crime detection - thank goodness for people like Ray Fish in the world

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Brilliant

Just so interesting and the amount of work that goes on behind the scenes of a crime is just incredible. Could have listened to more!!!

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fantastic listen..

short and sweet... brilliant listen, what a life he's lead, so many twists and turns

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Great re-telling of the cases. So interesting!

Such a great listen, really enjoyed it. so interesting and respectfully detailed. I was completely hooked.

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