Rachel and Sarah are joined by the fan-blooming-tastic Jess Thom to talk all things Inclusive Play.

Jess talks about her life, and how she has turned her tics into a source of imaginative creativity by founding Tourettes Hero and starting the Rebel Play movement.

A brilliant, funny, reflective conversation, where Rachel and Jess consider how we ensure we don’t let ableist ideas shrink our world and impact the self-image and well-being of our disabled children. As parents of disabled children, listening to disabled adults is a vital part to our own learning and evolution.

We’re so lucky to have been able to talk to Jess, not least because she tells us her actual favourite biscuits (not just her ‘show’ favourite biscuits!)

Sarah also has the sniffles, and for once it’s Rachel sharing laundry tips…

Thanks to the lovely folk at Trevassack Holidays for sponsoring this week's episode. You can find more about them and their work here.

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Thanks for listening and being a part of our podcast community -It would make our day if you could like, follow and review the podcast wherever you listen.

We’re so happy that The Skies We’re Under is a free, independent podcast. Any sponsorship received is used to cover the costs of the production of episodes and compensate our valuable guests for their time. The hosts provide their time and efforts for free. They do, however, appreciate any offers of caffeination to keep them going – you can buy them a cuppa here…

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Content warning - this episode includes discussions around birth trauma, if this won’t be helpful for you to listen to, please choose another episode to listen to.

Join Rachel and Lucy, in conversation with Hayley Charlesworth from Harry’s Pals.

They think back to the moment you get life changing news about your child: when all the focus is on all the things that are wrong or broken, and what they’ll need to do for your child as a result, and stop there. In a world where there is no emotional support provided for parents to navigate the rollercoaster that they’ve just got onto, Hayley has established Harry’s Pals to help fill this gap.

We also discuss, ‘Is there a good way to break bad news?’ and we meet Lucy’s Resident Rat friend.

You can find out more about Harry’s Pals here.

Thanks to the lovely folk at Holistic Thinking Holidays for sponsoring this week's episode. You can find more about them and their work here.

If you'd be interested in sponsoring an episode of The Skies We're Under, please contact us at TSWUpodcast@gmail.com.

We’d love to hear from you – what do you do for your mental health? Has anyone broken news to you in a good way? We love sharing stories, we love hearing how things are going, the good, the bad, the snotty-crying ugly.

You can leave a message with us in a number of ways:

• Firstly you can leave a message using Speakpipe here: SpeakpipeTSWU

(Please note calls need to be limited to 90 seconds)

• You can send us a voice note from your phone to our email address at tswupodcast@gmail.com
• Or, if the thought of hearing your own voice gives you ‘the ick’, then send us an email to tswupodcast@gmail.com

Whatever way you choose to get in touch, we really want to hear your thoughts, views, musings, rants and confessions (we love a confession!) .

Thanks for listening and being a part of our podcast community -It would make our day if you could like, follow and review the podcast wherever you listen.

We’re so happy that The Skies We’re Under is a free, independent podcast. Any sponsorship received is used to cover the costs of the production of episodes and compensate our valuable guests for their time. The hosts provide their time and efforts for free. They do, however, appreciate any offers of caffeination to keep them going – you can buy them a cuppa here…

Follow us on Instagram @BornatRightTime. Head to www.bornattherighttime.com to find a parent workshop or CPD-certified training for practitioners in communication, collaboration and personalised care with parents/carers.

It is so easy, as a parent, to get lost in the therapies, to-do lists (and as we’ve said before) become a nodding dog to the system. This week on the podcast we talk to Lucy Charles and Arul Hamill, therapists from New Zealand who are helping parents to focus on what matters most to them and their family’s using the f-words wheel of life.

Rather than stander, walker, lying support and sensory therapy, what about fun, fitness, family, future and function - at home and in the community?

From celebrating the small wins and throwing a birthday party for a poo, this episode is everything a parent needs to hear when they are swimming in the sea of performance, professionals and prior expectations. You can find the f-words and wheel of life here, and more about Lucy and Arul here and here.

Thanks to the lovely folk at Widgit for sponsoring this week's episode. You can find more about them and their work here.

If you'd be interested in sponsoring an episode of The Skies We're Under, please contact us at TSWUpodcast@gmail.com.

We’d love to hear from you – we love sharing stories, we love hearing how things are going, the good, the bad, the snotty-crying ugly.

You can leave a message with us in a number of ways:

• Firstly you can leave a message using speakpipe here: SpeakpipeTSWU

(Please note calls need to be limited to 90 seconds)

• You can send us a voice note from your phone to our email address at tswupodcast@gmail.com
• Or, if the thought of hearing your own voice gives you ‘the ick’, then send us an email to tswupodcast@gmail.com

Whatever way you choose to get in touch, we really want to hear your thoughts, views, musings, rants and confessions (we love a confession!) .

Thanks for listening and being a part of our podcast community -It would make our day if you could like, follow and review the podcast wherever you listen.

We’re so happy that The Skies We’re Under is a free, independent podcast. Any sponsorship received is used to cover the costs of the production of episodes and compensate our valuable guests for their time. The hosts provide their time and efforts for free. They do, however, appreciate any offers of caffeination to keep them going – you can buy them a cuppa here…

Follow us on Instagram @BornatRightTime. Head to www.bornattherighttime.com to find a parent workshop or CPD-certified training for practitioners in communication, collaboration and personalised care with parents/carers.