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The Recipe with Kenji and Deb

The Recipe with Kenji and Deb

By: Deb Perelman & J. Kenji López-Alt
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Hi, we’re Deb Perelman (Smitten Kitchen) and J. Kenji López-Alt (Serious Eats, The Food Lab, The Wok). We’re professional home cooks, which means we can - and will - make the same meal 57 times in a row on the quest for the perfect recipe. Is it crazy? For us, no, because we do this for a living. But for you? Yes, probably. Which is why you should listen to The Recipe with Kenji and Deb. You'll hear us talk about what goes into writing our recipes — the techniques we test, the ingredients we taste — so that you can be on your way to creating your own perfect recipe. Whether you're cooking meatloaf, pancakes, or chicken soup in all its forms, we got you, and you've got this.


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Deb Perelman & J. Kenji López-Alt
Art Cooking Food & Wine
Episodes
  • Mailbag Part 4
    Jun 23 2025

    In their last episode before book-writing hiatus, Deb and Kenji take your questions, about truly satisfying turkey burgers, no recipe recipes, the correct order of operations for burger, fries, and shake at home, and more.


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    12 mins
  • Burgers
    Jun 9 2025

    Deb has fifteen recipes for meatballs on Smitten Kitchen, and exactly one for a meat burger. That does not mean Deb lacks for opinions about burgers, oh no no — she goes head to head with Mr. Burger Lab himself, who has published dozens of burger recipes and guides. Kenji and Deb are in agreement about the one burger type that anyone can make at home just as well as a restaurant. Plus, a special announcement.

    Recipes Mentioned:

    • Fake Shake Burger (Smitten Kitchen)
    • The Burger Lab: The World's Best Burger for a Single Man (or Woman) (Serious Eats)
    • Classic Smashed Burgers (Serious Eats)
    • Oklahoma-Style Onion Burgers Recipe (Serious Eats)
    • Mastering the Art of Burger Blending with Eight Cuts of Beef (Serious Eats)
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    40 mins
  • Mailbag Part 3
    May 26 2025

    When is it OK to yuck someone’s yum? Garlic and ginger hacks. How to turn your kid into a lifelong cook. Kenji and Deb answer your questions in another mailbag.

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    15 mins
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