On 14 June 2017, the Grenfell Tower fire in West London claimed 72 lives and exposed critical failures in building safety and fire preparedness. Over 250 firefighters faced unimaginable conditions as the fire spread rapidly due to combustible cladding, turning Grenfell into a turning point for our sector.

Today’s guest is Steve McGuirk, former fire chief, expert witness to the Grenfell Inquiry, and Executive Officer of the Fire Sector Federation. With nearly 50 years in the fire service, Steve has led through major change, tragedy, and challenge, and continues to push for lessons from Grenfell to lead to real, lasting change in our profession.

In this episode, we explore:
– Commanding complex incidents under pressure
– The need for tough, realistic training
– Shifting culture and accountability within services
– The role of technology in a safer future
– What Grenfell teaches us and what must change.

Grenfell challenges us to prioritise truth, learning, and action to prevent another tragedy.

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Frank Leeb is the managing director of the First Responder Center for Excellence (FRCE). He previously served as a Deputy Assistant Chief in the Fire Department of New York. Retiring in June 2024 with more than 31 years. During his tenure with the FDNY, he held several senior staff positions, including the Chief of the Fire Academy, Chief of Training, and Chief of Safety. Frank has also been a East Farmingdale Fire Department member since 1983 (Long Island, NY).

Frank Leeb's career has been defined by his unwavering commitment to fostering growth through training and development, a central tenet of his leadership philosophy. He has lectured nationally and internationally on motivation, preparedness, leadership, and firefighting strategy, and tactics.
He holds a bachelor’s in fire service administration from SUNY Empire State and a master’s in security studies from the Naval Postgraduate School, Center for Homeland Defense and Security (CHDS).

He has served as an advisory panel member for UL Firefighter Safety Research Institute’s (FSRI) “Study of Coordinated Attack in Acquired Structures”. Frank was also the keynote speaker for Firehouse Expo in 2022 and was a presenter at the 2022, 2023, and 2024 U.S. Fire Administrator Summit on Fire Prevention and Control. He is also the author of the best-selling book “Cornerstones of Leadership - On And Off The fireground” and coauthor of “30 Fires You Must Know”.

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Today’s we explore what it means to live with strength, service, and purpose. with a man who represents all of that and then some.

Frank Boniello is not just a firefighter. He’s not just a U.S. Air Force member. And he’s not just strong. He is officially the World’s Strongest Firefighter 2025.

Today we share the story behind the podium. Behind the gold-plated fire axe. Behind the lifting platform, the stone carries, the axle presses, and the hydrant loads.

Frank’s journey is one of resilience, discipline, and intentional living the kind of story that forces you to look at your own limits and wonder: “What if I’m capable of more?”

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