L' Shawn shares her personal experience of losing a close friend, Angus. Eryn offers her knowledge of grief and loss discussing the complexities of grief and loss, including the concept of 'compounded loss' and 'ambiguous loss'. L'Shawn expresses her emotional struggle with the loss of Angus, as well as other losses, and the need to hold on to memories of Angus. The conversation ends with Eryn offering support and discussing the potential for grief to trigger judgment, the importance of self-compassion, and the different emotional pathways of grieving behavior.

L'Shawn and Eryn discuss the issue of meanness, particularly in the context of children and adults, and the importance of responding to it in a healthy and empathetic way. They also emphasize the need for individuals to develop skills to intervene in situations of aggression or mean behavior, and the role of coaches or therapists in promoting these skills. Lastly, they discuss ways to promote a more positive and kind culture in American society, including being mindful of one's actions, practicing positive self-talk, and modeling positive behaviors for future generations.

Eryn and L' Shawn discuss the role of spirituality in coaching practice, emphasizing the importance of respecting clients' beliefs and the potential benefits of a more proactive approach. They also explore the intersection of spirituality with education, personal beliefs, and professional coaching, highlighting the challenges and opportunities in this area. Lastly, they discuss the role of faith, spirituality, and religion in providing comfort during times of grief and loss, and the potential for science and spirituality to overlap.