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CX Files

CX Files

By: Mark Hillary and Peter Ryan
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CX Files features your hosts, CX industry analysts Mark Hillary and Peter Ryan, speaking each week to leading analysts, thinkers, and practitioners focused on managing the Customer Experience (CX). In each episode Mark and Peter talk to their guests about the future of CX, the important trends, and what customers really expect from brands today.(C) IT Decisions and Carnaby Content 2018-2025 Economics Management Management & Leadership
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  • Pete Jones - Grypp - Why Are We Still Asking Agents to Work with Their Eyes Shut?
    Jun 26 2025

    Pete Jones is the founder and CEO of Grypp. He is based in the UK between London and Birmingham.

    Grypp is a visual platform that aims to help contact centers and the agents working within them see what their customers can see.

    This can be a transformative technology for many support environments and it is low cost and proven - in contrast to many of the AI projects we have covered recently on the podcast.

    Mark Hillary called Pete to get an ouline of the various ways in which a visual approach to CX can transform how the support process works and how this also creates opportunities for managing fraud and identity.

    As the conversation suggests: we need humans In CX so why are we restraining them by not allowing them to see what the customer can see?

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/pete-jones-gryppcorp/

    https://grypp.io/about-us/

    Summary:

    Mark Hillary and Peter Ryan discuss the evolution of visual customer experience (CX) with Pete Jones, CEO of Grypp. They highlight how visual CX, which allows agents to see customer issues in real-time, can reduce communication inefficiencies and enhance customer service. Jones shares that one in five enterprises now use visual CX, and Grypp has released 20 new innovations in the past two years. They also explore the potential of visual CX in fraud prevention and its integration with AI to improve customer interactions and operational efficiency. Jones emphasizes the importance of immediate value and the potential for significant cost savings and improved customer satisfaction.

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    36 mins
  • Mythbusting AI In CX - The Truths No One Tells You
    Jun 19 2025

    Nicola Collister and Jerry Briggs talk to Peter Ryan about AI in CX

    We have talked many times on this podcast about AI and the hype aound what it can do for CX designers and managers. But what can it really do? We are being flooded with AI-themed ideas on LinkedIn daily, but it is also clear that many AI projects are failing (Gartner says that 85% of AI projects are failing at present).

    In this episode Peter Ryan aims to do some myth-busting. Where is AI in CX today? What are the real use cases and where is the hype?

    Peter talked to two CX leaders - in the UK and US - to discuss their thoughts on the realities of using AI in CX today...

    This episode features the guests:

    Nicola Collister

    CEO and Founder of Custerian - based in Bowden, near Manchester UK

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicola-collister-7b34ba2/

    https://www.custerian.com/chat-to-us

    Jerry Briggs

    CEO and Owner of ApexCX - based in Washington DC, USA

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/jerryhbriggs/

    https://www.linkedin.com/company/apexcx-customer-experience-support-services/

    Interview led by Peter Ryan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/peter-ryan-montreal/

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    Summary

    Mark Hillary and Peter Ryan discuss the hype cycle surrounding AI in customer experience (CX) with guests Nicola Collister and Jerry Briggs. They highlight the disparity between AI adoption in the US and China, noting that many US companies are still in the hype phase, while Chinese companies are using AI for practical applications.

    The conversation emphasizes the need for strategic AI implementation aligned with business goals, rather than just adopting AI for the sake of innovation. They also discuss the importance of understanding AI's limitations and potential negative impacts on both customers and employees. The guests stress the need for clear communication and realistic expectations from AI vendors and consultants.

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    43 mins
  • Owen Campbell - Kura - How BPOs Can Work With Regulated Industries
    Jun 12 2025

    Owen Campbell is the operations director at Kura. He is based in Glasgow, Scotland.

    Kura is a BPO based in the UK, but also with operations in South Africa. They have a number of clients from various regulated industries and Owen talked to Mark Hillary about the differences between a client that has complete control over all their services and a client from a more regulated environment.

    What needs to be considered when working to design CX for a regulated industry?

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/owen-campbell-a4602b173/

    https://www.wearekura.com/

    SUMMARY

    Mark Hillary and Peter Ryan discuss the complexities of customer experience (CX) in regulated industries with Owen Campbell, Operations Director at Kura, a BPO focused on culture and people development. Campbell highlights Kura's work with heavily regulated sectors like healthcare, utilities, and financial services, emphasizing the importance of compliance and agent training. He notes that while innovation may take longer in regulated environments, it is still possible. Campbell also discusses Kura's strategic planning sessions, the importance of data security, and the shift towards outcome-based models for advisors. He predicts increased use of AI and automated compliance in the coming years.

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    25 mins
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