Liam Perkins shares his rugby journey, starting from a young age at Gosport and Fareham Rugby Club and progressing through the ranks. He talks about his time at Newbury, Ealing Trailfinders, and Worthing, where he served as club captain. Liam then discusses his current role as a player-coach at Petersfield Rugby Club and the club's aspirations to become one of the best clubs in Hampshire. He also mentions the challenges of sustaining a club at higher levels and the importance of building a strong foundation. The conversation covers topics such as the transition year at Liam's former rugby club, the challenges of coaching and playing at the same time, the players Liam has played with who made it to the professional level, the players who didn't make it but should have, the future of rugby and the need for accessibility and growth, and Liam's aspirations as a coach.

Si Pickett, creator of the Purple Cobra 7s team, discusses his rugby journey and the development of sevens rugby. He shares his experience playing with talented players who went on to make it in professional rugby, as well as those who didn't but should have. Si also talks about the growth of Havant RFC and the success of the Purple Cobras as a charity sevens team. The conversation covers various topics related to epilepsy and sevens rugby. Si discusses different types of seizures and the importance of spreading awareness and providing first aid for epilepsy. He also talks about the purple Cobras sevens team and their upcoming tournaments. The conversation then shifts to the role of sevens rugby in the overall rugby landscape. Simon shares his thoughts on whether sevens can be the saviour of rugby and the need for more characters and innovation in the sport. The discussion concludes with a conversation about the potential for private investment and franchise systems in sevens rugby. The conversation covers various topics related to the future of rugby, including the need for flexibility and adaptation, the potential benefits of scheduling games on weekdays, the importance of marketing and accessibility, the challenges faced by clubs in terms of geographical spread and financial stability, the impact of closed leagues and the lack of promotion and relegation, the potential for a cup competition involving lower-tier teams, the issues with the Welsh Rugby Union (WRU) and its disconnect with regional teams and grassroots rugby, the potential decline of Welsh rugby, the inclusion of South African teams in the United Rugby Championship (URC), the lack of development opportunities in Wales, the need for a Wales A team, and the importance of player development and retention.

The conversation provides a compelling case for the future of English rugby, highlighting the potential for teams to develop, the accessibility and financial backing of the sport, and the investment in rugby, Six Nations and Women's rugby. It also addresses the challenges of player development, the reliance on foreign players in some countries, and the urgent need for changes to ensure the development of local talent. The conversation urges us to take bold steps forward and create our own brands, just like Joe Marler and James Haskell, and to strive for success in Rugby. It's time to invest in rugby and support its growth, recognizing its unique value and potential for greatness. The conversation discusses the movers and shakers in the Rugby Europe Championship too.

Rugby Through the Leagues Podcast this week interviews Mark Pollard, who shares his rugby journey. Mark talks about his early days playing rugby, his experiences at different clubs, and the enjoyment he found at the highest level. He also discusses playing rugby while serving in the Navy and the opportunities it provided to play in different countries. The conversation touches on players who have made it professionally, the dedication required to succeed, and the importance of the social aspect of rugby. The conversation explores the challenges and sustainability of professional and amateur rugby. It discusses the financial viability of professional rugby and the limited opportunities for players outside the top 1%. The conversation also touches on the difficulties of developing professional rugby and the lack of a clear pathway. The impact of the pandemic on rugby clubs is highlighted, with many struggling to survive. The importance of community and family involvement in rugby clubs is emphasized, as well as the need to make the club attractive and inclusive for all members. The conversation explores the challenges of attracting crowds to rugby games and the lack of accessibility to top-level rugby clubs. The distance to travel and the cost of transportation are major barriers for fans. The conversation also touches on the importance of community rugby and the need for funding and support at the grassroots level. The hosts discuss the potential of adapting rugby at a community level, such as scheduling games on Saturday mornings to allow fans to attend matches in the afternoon. They also mention the importance of having a strong club structure and the financial implications associated with sustaining a higher level of rugby.

This episode of the Rugby Through the Leagues podcast introduces the purpose of the podcast, which is to shine a light on grassroots rugby and rugby below tier one. The host discusses the lack of coverage and exposure for rugby in non-tier one countries and emphasizes the potential for growth and development in these regions. He also highlights the success of teams like Georgia and Portugal in international competitions and the need for more opportunities for tier two nations to compete against tier one teams. The host concludes by expressing his ambition to visit and cover games in various European leagues and promote accessibility to international rugby.